That is the transcript of an interview hosted on Ruth’s Really feel Higher. Dwell Free. podcast.
Ruth Soukup: It’s no secret that I’m not a giant fan of prescribed drugs, or the best way large pharma, and large meals for that matter, haven’t solely corrupted the well being trade, however straight prompted the huge well being and weight problems disaster on this nation. And whereas we discuss so much right here on this podcast about how one can begin therapeutic your physique by consuming the correct issues, One factor we don’t actually speak about is what pure alternate options exist for changing the medicine which are nonetheless taking over house in your drugs cupboard.
That’s why I’m so enthusiastic about immediately’s episode. If nothing else, it’s undoubtedly going to offer you some critical meals for thought. So let’s dig in.
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Hey there, and welcome again to the Really feel Higher Dwell Free podcast. For these of you who don’t know me, my identify is Ruth Soukup and I’m the founding father of Thinlicious and the creator of the Skinny Tailored System, in addition to the New York Instances bestselling writer of seven books. And immediately we’re going to be chatting with my buddy, Heidi Villegas, who’s a passionate herbalist with over 20 years of expertise, in addition to an aromatherapist and a homesteader.
And he or she has not solely been capable of heal her personal physique naturally and eradicate the entire medicines from her life, she now teaches individuals world wide methods to use herbs as drugs. And he or she’s fairly wonderful. And immediately she’s going to be strolling us by what that really seems like. And I gotta inform you, that is truthfully one of many, my favourite conversations that I’ve ever had on this podcast to this point.
It’s fairly enjoyable. We get a bit heated generally it’s, nevertheless it’s fairly good. So with out additional ado, I’m excited to have the ability to introduce you to immediately’s interview visitor, Heidi Villegas. Heidi, thanks a lot for being right here immediately. I’m so excited to speak to you.

Heidi Villegas: Thanks Ruth. I’m thrilled to be right here.
Thanks a lot for having me on.
Ruth Soukup: You’re welcome. And you understand, individuals don’t, may not know this, however you and I’ve recognized one another for a really very long time. You’ve been in my enterprise packages for a very long time and been in my mastermind and all these items. So we had numerous alternatives to speak in regards to the enterprise aspect of what you do, however I haven’t really had that a lot time to speak to you about just like the precise nitty gritty of what you do, which is definitely very cool.
So why don’t we simply begin like, give us a fast overview of who you might be, what you do, after which we’ll dive in.
Heidi Villegas: Okay so I’m Heidi Villegas and I’m the founding father of Therapeutic Harvest Homestead and in addition the Faculty of Botanical Arts and Sciences. I’m an herbalist, and I’ve been an herbalist now for about 20 years, after which I acquired into aromatherapy in all probability about, oh, 5 – 6 years in the past, and acquired educated in that.
However I got here into this with some actually critical well being points, and I used to be doing all the pieces proper, I believed. And I found medicinal herbs type of accidentally. And there’s a complete story behind that, however I received’t go into it. However anyway, that’s what spurred my curiosity in medicinal vegetation. And I used to be capable of heal my physique from, oh my goodness, so many alternative well being points.
And lots of of them have been associated. They have been like uncomfortable side effects of the totally different well being points I used to be having and the medicines I used to be on. And so as soon as I acquired off all the pieces, It’s, I’m 60 years previous and I really feel higher now than once I was 40. Regardless that I used to be like fitter again then, you understand, so I now train individuals methods to use these medicinal herbs and God gave us the herbs.
He gave us the vegetation for our meals and drugs. And we as a collective society have forgotten methods to use them. So I simply helped deliver that again.
Ruth Soukup: I like that. I like that. Properly, and you understand, as you in all probability know, I believe, however I’m not a giant fan of massive pharma. So I like something that’s different. And but I don’t know, like herbalist, that appears like such a like fancy time period.
So inform me, like, inform me, clarify to me, what’s an herbalist?
Heidi Villegas: So, and that is so humorous as a result of lots of people will research herbs and begin utilizing pure treatments. and making their very own pure treatments. And so they hesitate to name themselves an herbalist as a result of it does appear type of like excessive finish, fancy, no matter.
The truth is anyone who works with medicinal herbs is an herbalist. I imply, in case you’re a gardener and also you develop mint in your yard and you utilize that for natural teas, properly, you understand, to an extent you’re an herbalist. Yeah. And many individuals, it’s enjoyable. I prefer it. So, and many individuals as soon as they begin studying extra deeply in regards to the medicinal vegetation, they go on to assist different individuals.
That’s thrilling.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah. So what is taken into account a medicinal plant? Like what are the totally different, or like that ones that folks would have heard of?
Heidi Villegas: Okay there are literally thousands of them, to begin with, and yeah, lots of them are literally the meals that you’ve got in your kitchen proper now. For instance cinnamon is an unbelievable medicinal herb in quite a lot of other ways, many makes use of for it.
Lavender, garlic peppermint, rosemary, oregano your Italian spice seasoning. That is so humorous. A buddy of mine was telling me that her son who’s in faculty. Began having an sickness and he or she stated, simply go to the physician. Now she’s one in all my college students and he or she was apprehensive about him. He says, no, as a result of I’m not going to take an antibiotic and I’m not going to take a steroid.
I like this child. Precisely. Properly, I, she’s been my pupil for a very very long time. So she like is aware of, she goes, look, go to the grocery retailer. Get your, get the Italian spice seasoning and do an natural steam. And that’s going to, you understand, assist launch all the pieces and make it easier to heal up. He did it. He felt higher like actually inside a day.
So, wow. Yeah. Many individuals simply don’t understand how these herbs are so at our fingertips and Large Pharma doesn’t need us to find out about them.
Ruth Soukup: No, they don’t.
Heidi Villegas: No, in case you have a look at the historical past of medication, like, you understand, the AMA, the American Medical Affiliation in society, it’s actually fairly sickening. And it began way back, actually again within the 1800s.
And if you wish to return even farther and get into, I hate the phrase, the patriarchy and all of that, you would take this all the best way again into the 1500s with the witch trials and issues like that. They have been wow. Yeah. There’s a, all the best way again to that. Yeah. It’s a captivating historical past.
However in fashionable society you understand, the American Medical Affiliation, the FDA, the medical insurance trade, and naturally large pharma, mainly simply crushed herbalism and herbalist. Herbalism was authorized in our nation to practices of medical modality, and it now not is. They’ve taken it away from the individuals.
So yeah, so herbalists now, like once I work with shoppers, I’m not practising drugs or any type of different medical well being. What I say is I’m not a physician. And. I don’t diagnose. I don’t prescribe. I don’t treatment. I don’t deal with, however we assist the physique’s pure therapeutic processes. So we type of have skirted across the language.
Yeah, however
Ruth Soukup: yeah, oils are type of like that a bit bit too, which I’ve been utilizing, you understand, important oils for. 10 years, 12 years, one thing like that. And I’ve, however I’ve, I discover it irritating which you could’t get like good solutions, proper? Like in case you Google it, all the pieces is so throttled to search out out like what important oil will do which factor due to all the pieces that they’re allowed or not allowed to say.
And even like what I ended up doing was shopping for previous books, like books from, I don’t know, the Nineteen Eighties and Nineteen Nineties. 90s. I’d discover them on eBay or Amazon or no matter. And so they have been costly as a result of there’s not very lots of them as a result of different individuals have achieved the identical factor, however from earlier than they began actually throttling what you’re allowed to say about these totally different important oils.
In order that I, simply in order that I may know methods to use them and what to make use of for various issues. So how do you. How do you get round that? Like, after which that’s the half that’s so like, I believe a bit bit overwhelming for me. And perhaps if any individual is listening, going, sure, I wish to use herbs, but when I don’t know what to do, then how is that going to assist me?
So how do you get round that to really like study what issues do, what issues and what are used for what issues, does that make sense?

Heidi Villegas: It does. So to begin with, let me discuss important oils for only a second as a result of I do each. And yeah, humorous as a result of not many herbalists who observe herbalism really observe aromatherapy too and vice versa.
Most aromatherapists don’t observe herbalism, however I even have a couple of stills copper stills and I distill my very own important oils oftentimes. Right here’s, yeah. So right here’s, and I began doing that and I simply, had a light-weight bulb second. I favored someday, however important oils are merely one other natural extract.
That’s all they’re. Once we put herbs in a alcohol, we extract like, like vanilla extract. You’re really making a tincture. Identical factor. Important oils are only a steam distillation of the plant. So actually I have a look at important oils as herbalism and that’s that’s my view on it.
Ruth Soukup: No, it’s type of, it’s only a totally different model of the identical factor, the identical vegetation, the identical herbs, that every one the distinction.
Heidi Villegas: Yeah, it’s a really concentrated type of the plant matter. So it’s a must to be tremendous cautious with them, nevertheless it’s herbalism nonetheless. And so far as, you understand, what your query was about getting began I’m not going to lie. It’s arduous and it’s as a result of the data has been throttled. And I’m simply going to say this with the rise of AI.
AI is great in loads of methods, however when it comes to getting details about issues which are censored, I wouldn’t go there. I’ve really Googled natural questions so many instances and I’ve given, been given flawed solutions, flawed by AI. So don’t try this. I wouldn’t belief something on Google to be sincere.
It’s the identical,
Ruth Soukup: sorry to interrupt you, nevertheless it’s the identical factor with all of the stuff that I speak about right here on this podcast, proper? As a result of. The standard well being proper of, Oh, you simply have to rely your energy and eat much less and train extra and go like the usual accredited line, which is all BS, which has made all of us fats and unhealthy and sick for the final 40 years is what you discover.
And that’s why it’s so, that’s why we’re well being rebels right here, Heidi, as a result of it’s counter tradition and it makes me loopy as a result of I believe. That is really what works. And we’re and the proof in our society is that 80 % of individuals are obese. All people’s sick. All people’s on remedy. Like what we’re doing just isn’t working.
Does no person see that? Does no person see that right here? Like, clearly, like, I don’t even have to love, be a conspiracy theorist to have the ability to have a look at society and know That this what we’re doing just isn’t working. Let’s discover a totally different approach.
Heidi Villegas: Hallelujah. I didn’t know No, I completely agree. And I like listening to you speak about this.
And I believe you’re very courageous. I’m not courageous sufficient but to get on the market. You’re speaking right here. Yeah, precisely. However you understand, perhaps I’ll with a few of the shifts which have been occurring.
Ruth Soukup: I’d ask you about that. Like, what do you assume now about like Maha, proper? Like, and that is like, let’s put all politics apart.
I don’t actually speak about politics. I’m fairly enthusiastic about make America wholesome once more. I have to say I’m as a result of it’s all the pieces that we speak about on this podcast on a regular basis. And now it’s popping out in like, I believe it’s opening up the dialog not less than, however that’s going to alter the rules like for what you do.
And no,
Heidi Villegas: I truthfully, I actually don’t. I do assume that when it comes to some meals, some cosmetics, some residence merchandise, which launch endocrine disruptors and all the pieces else into our our bodies by inhalation and pores and skin use. I do assume a few of that may shift and alter, particularly as a result of over in Europe, they’ve such their guidelines and their legal guidelines are a lot, a lot more healthy for the individuals.
And so they’re rather more stringent about issues like cosmetics use and what toxins are allowed and never allowed right here in America. It’s a free for all and it’s all in regards to the cash and it’s all about, you understand, who’s getting wealthy and who’s not and the individuals are struggling. The individuals are completely struggling.
I get actually offended once I take into consideration conditions I had with my youngsters well being clever, as a result of once more, you understand, my children have been born within the eighties, a very very long time in the past these days, however. I, it’s like I didn’t know what to do about colic. If I had recognized that I may have drunk a cup of chamomile tea half-hour earlier than I nursed my child, he in all probability would have been so much much less, he would have had much less ache and I’d have had much less ache.
Simply little issues like this that we simply have misplaced, Ruth. It’s loopy. And now, meals. Yeah, they’ve they’ve made our meals poisonous. I do know,

Ruth Soukup: I do know. I speak about that on a regular basis, however I imply, simply fascinated about like what you’re saying, like my similar factor, my daughter, my youngest daughter cried for the primary three years of her life.
And now we all know she had allergic reactions and all these items. And, It was in all probability related issues, proper? There’s a lot that I may have achieved. Had I recognized who is aware of what I used to be consuming or not consuming. And I look again at footage of my pantry pondering that I used to be consuming high-quality. And it was like, I cringe now.
After which simply this week, a brand new, I simply learn an article of that. Now, all these younger individuals are being identified with colon most cancers they usually’re One of many causes is due to all of the seed oils. Proper? However what occurs once you go to the grocery retailer? In the event you go to the grocery retailer and also you have a look at all of the oils, what ones say coronary heart wholesome on them?
It’s the shit ones, proper? It’s ones which are horrible for you and are making you sick. And but the labels on them make these seem like they’re the great selection. And that’s disgusting. That’s disgusting about our society. It’s. It’s, Yeah. After which once more, I say like, all it’s a must to do is have a look at the outcomes of our, of what has occurred in our society and what we’re getting.
And if and no, one thing is flawed, this isn’t working like essential pondering expertise would inform you no matter we’re doing just isn’t the reply. So let’s attempt one thing else. Okay.
Heidi Villegas: Ruth, you’re so proper. And it’s even the identical with simply regular over-the-counter drugstore medicine. It’s the identical precise factor as with our meals.
Do you know that the DM, the dextromethorphan that’s in cough syrup, it’s a semi narcotic? And youngsters have really realized methods to get excessive with it. It’s not supposed for use with youngsters below the age of six, and but I’ve seen labels for the cough syrups for teenagers, little youngsters two years previous, dosage quantities.
It’s nuts. Acetaminophen, which, you understand, all of us simply love for as a ache reliever. It’s really the primary killer of people that die from liver illness. It’s not alcohol. It’s acetaminophen. We’re taking issues and a few of us so much, particularly like stuff like Afrin, individuals get hooked on that stuff.
There, there’s a greater approach. There’s a pure, higher, mild, and more practical approach. to cope with our meals, our our bodies, our life, our medicines, the issues we’d like for blood strain. I managed, are you aware what? We’ve not taken any prescription or over-the-counter medicine in occurring 15 years now. And it’s, completely modified our life.
And the factor is that I’ve my medicines. Yeah. I’ve what we’d like.
Ruth Soukup: You guys can’t see what I’m . Trigger we’re on video proper now, however she’s acquired little jars behind her, like a 18th century. It’s cute. Like that, all of the, like all of the little herbs and jars. So when she’s pointing at her pharmacy, I’m describing it.
She’s pointing at her pharmacy behind her. It’s loads of jars.
Heidi Villegas: My pharmacy is definitely so much larger than that. That is only for present, however truthfully it’s loads of enjoyable. And my college students, what occurs is with my college students come into my world for a few causes. Primary, I’ve acquired loads of younger mothers who wish to study this, these expertise for his or her children and their households and train their children at a youthful age, which I simply love that.
That makes me simply so pleased once I see younger individuals waking up going, such as you stated what are we not? You understand, understanding right here. It’s a large number on the market. So I get younger mothers. I become older individuals coming to me who’re like of their forties and fifties they usually’re beginning to expertise well being issues.
And so they’re like, wait a minute, the medicine aren’t working. This isn’t the place, you understand, the docs, I imply, I had medical fail after medical fail. And it’s, I get so mad and it’s like, they need one thing totally different. So they arrive they usually wish to study herbalism too. After which I’ve acquired loads of homesteaders who wish to be autonomous after which I’ve acquired a It’s a small crowd of preparedness individuals.
So preppers. I’ve a bit
Ruth Soukup: tiny little bit of prepper in me. I
Heidi Villegas: do too. I do too.
Ruth Soukup: Tiny bit. Not so much. I’m not like excessive. However a bit bit. Only a
Heidi Villegas: little. In
Ruth Soukup: case all of it goes south. I wish to be okay.
Heidi Villegas: Precisely. I’m there with you.
Ruth Soukup: I like that. So like, I, simply going again to what you have been saying in regards to the like over-the-counter stuff, proper?
Like we expect as a result of it’s offered over-the-counter, you don’t even want a prescription for it. Oh, it should be protected. It’s high-quality. It’s no large deal. It’s no large deal. It’s no large deal. And likewise I believe instinctively, or perhaps like, What we consider is that any individual on the market within the authorities or in these FDA and all of the regulate regulatory our bodies like they’ve our again, proper?
Like they’re searching for us that absolutely they wouldn’t permit us to have stuff that was not okay for us. And but I believe that’s loads of the dialog that has come out the previous few years, particularly put up COVID. And now what’s popping out in regards to the fact about COVID and the way it was originated and the way, and even what the response was and what they might assist you to say and what they wouldn’t assist you to say.
I imply, this report that simply got here out from Congress, mainly saying that. Every part all people was saying was proper. The masks weren’t efficient, that they really made issues worse, that social distancing was not efficient. And it really was horrible for teenagers and retaining them residence from faculty and all of these things, proper, that I used to be afraid to say out loud, however undoubtedly stated in my personal circles has all been confirmed to be.
the case. So now it’s nearly this factor too, of like, how will we, who will we even know methods to, who to belief if our, if the people who we’re trusting to look out for us, docs and companies and FDA and all of those individuals which are imagined to have our again are literally permitting us to take issues which are making us sicker.
Heidi Villegas: You understand, I do know precisely what you imply. It’s loads of indoctrination. You understand, individuals are indoctrinated from the time they’re born. And if their dad and mom have been indoctrinated already, it’s simply, it’s a misplaced trigger till any individual wakes up and goes, Okay, I have to study extra about this, that or the opposite, and what’s occurring.
You understand, it’s, and the way do you resolve the issue? Properly, you begin studying. You understand, when you get up to what’s going on on the earth, and hopefully increasingly more individuals will, particularly with Maha, glad you talked about that then you definately begin studying. And sadly, the one approach, one of the simplest ways, and the quickest approach is to get right into a program, like individuals get into your Thinlicious.
They wish to take cost of their well being by their meals and meals is our first drugs. Then normally individuals, hopefully individuals will take it a step farther and go, you understand what, perhaps these medicine aren’t the very best issues. What do I do as a substitute? Oh gosh, these vegetation work. They work, they’re confirmed and increasingly more scientific research are literally being achieved on them.
The issue there’s that with large pharma, waking as much as the truth that individuals are waking up they’re now beginning worry ways. Like, in case you take lavender important oil and also you’re a younger boy, you’re going to have, you understand, boobs. Properly, no, that’s an enormous fantasy. And you understand, and I’ve listened to sufficient analysis and research and conferences in addition to learn them.
It’s a whole fantasy and it’s a lie. We’re being lied to. Again and again in quite a lot of other ways
Ruth Soukup: and over and I believe it’s nearly that such as you, you go down the rabbit gap otherwise you pull the thread or one thing you understand what I imply such as you, there’s like a gate. I suppose it’s a play on phrases nevertheless it’s like a gateway drug like for me.
It was. Reducing weight, proper? Like I simply wished to reduce weight and I couldn’t perceive why it was so arduous and why I used to be making an attempt so arduous and doing all of the issues and doing all of the issues that everyone at all times stated to do, like rely your energy and eat much less and train extra and do extra, you get extra cardio.
Why it simply was not working. I couldn’t perceive it. Trigger I’m not, I imply, you understand, me for a very long time, Heidi, I’m not an unmotivated particular person. I’m not a, I’m not an individual who doesn’t attempt arduous. And like, once I go all in, I’m like, I’m all in, proper? Prefer to the purpose of like, like dial it again. That’s what my husband says, like dial it again.
And also you’re getting a bit once more. However for actual, like that’s how It began for me was purely simply, I wish to match into my skinny denims once more, proper? Like I at all times joke about that. I wasn’t, I didn’t care about that a lot about feeling wholesome, despite the fact that I did really feel like crap, I didn’t actually essentially affiliate it.
I simply, you understand, with prefer it was that it was all linked, which it was, however I didn’t see that what I, it was very superficial of, I don’t be ok with my physique and I need it, I wish to look good once more. And so I, and so from that perspective. Additionally, sorry, this can be a little tangent.
Heidi Villegas: That’s okay. I acquired
Ruth Soukup: to get this out.
It’s like remedy for me. However from that perspective, proper, of simply desirous to look good, I completely perceive why individuals take Ozempic, proper? Like why they’re like, I’m simply taking it. As a result of if I, if that had come out and thank God that it didn’t come out. Like till after I had actually gone by my well being transformation as a result of I’d have been first in line.
I didn’t care about all these items. I wasn’t into all of the pure. I wasn’t apprehensive about like, it didn’t actually matter to me that a lot. I simply wished to be skinny. And so no matter it took to get me there, if it was doing a, you understand, 10 day juice cleanse or no matter crappy weight loss plan I may provide you with, that’s what I cared about.
Yeah. After which as I began studying, proper? Like that was, in order that was the gateway drug for me and it was completely superficial. However as I began actually digging into it and going, wait a minute, all the pieces that I’ve ever been advised about weight reduction is a lie. What else have I been lied about? Proper? Like what else is what am I being lied about?
And wait, all of that is really my hormones. And it’s not simply the meals that I’m consuming and the toxins in my meals and the crap the crappy stuff that I’m consuming. It’s. Really, the entire stuff round me and we, the entire medicines are additionally contributing to smash my intestine well being and maintain me sick.
And
Heidi Villegas: you
Ruth Soukup: go, holy crap. And so now I’m on this podcast ranting like a lunatic as a result of I simply need it to be skinny. And I prefer it opened up. A complete new world of realizing that we’ve all been lied to, that large meals is mendacity to us, that large pharma is mendacity to us, and that in case you actually really wish to be wholesome, like return to nature, primary.
And quantity two, cease believing all of the lies and simply nourish your physique with actual complete issues.
Heidi Villegas: That’s precisely proper. In all of the methods, in skincare, along with your fluids, all the pieces, all of it you understand, oh my gosh. I like speaking to a like minded particular person. It’s so
Ruth Soukup: true. I do know individuals are in all probability listening to this proper now going, Ruth’s on a tear immediately.
I do know I’ve had loads of espresso, guys. Sorry. Plenty of espresso immediately. So let’s return to the herbs, proper? So in case you are pondering like, okay, herbs, yeah, I wish to be extra pure. I don’t wish to, I don’t, I want to do away with medicines, like even the outer over-the-counter stuff, however this simply feels overwhelming.
Like what’s like, what’s the place to begin? Like, what are some type of easy Issues that you would do which are in another way that will make a big effect.
Heidi Villegas: It is dependent upon you understand, what you’re keen to speculate money and time, proper, however these are at all times the 2 investments that folks have to have a look at.
And in case you are on a very tight price range. And also you don’t have some huge cash. I’m simply going to say go to my YouTube channel or my web site. I’ve actually acquired a whole bunch of movies. I’ve acquired a whole bunch of articles and you’ll really begin wanting. I’ve acquired an index on my web site within the get to know us part and folks can really begin treatments which have been formulated by me and have been confirmed to work with totally different individuals.
Now I simply wish to say right here, not I’ll, that is, I acquired to speak about actually fast the distinction between drugs, allopathic physician drugs versus natural drugs. In the event you’re herbalist, you’re not pondering allopathically. You’re not fascinated about, okay, what capsule with a physician, it’s going to be okay.
What’s flawed with you? Right here’s a capsule masks, the symptom simply might get the particular person extra comfy. That’s all that issues. Herbalists. wish to heal the physique. So what we are inclined to do is have a look at every particular person particular person and take into consideration their structure. Do they run sizzling? Do they run chilly? Do they’re they dry?
Are they moisture? We’re all totally different. We’d like various things. And so a holistic herbalist will have a tendency to have a look at all that after which select totally different herbs and vegetation and formulate them for the person. Now, with that stated, in case you’re coping with one thing that’s like, like an ongoing challenge, like sleep, all it’s a must to do actually is work out which herbs give you the results you want sleep clever, dial them in, and then you definately’ve acquired your personal personalised, you understand, sleep tincture.
You understand, you are able to do that. So I’ve acquired a couple of recipes on my web site. Folks can simply go and make them and check out them. They’re all you guys are Ruth herbalism is very easy. It’s individuals assume it’s actually arduous. It’s not, it takes actually 5 minutes to make an natural tincture. You dump the herbs in a jar, you pour the alcohol in, you let it soak for 4 to 6 weeks.
You shake it sometimes and also you pressure it off. There you go. You’ve acquired a tincture. What’s, what do you do with the tincture? Properly, so proper earlier than we began speaking I’ve a cough and I, I acquired it from a buddy of mine final week and it’s a, it’s going into my chest. I’m like, okay it’s a bronchial cough.
It’s within the decrease respiratory system. So I’m going to make use of, you understand, I’m utilizing wild cherry bark and Ella marketing campaign primarily, plus a few different issues. So I’ve acquired my particular cough tincture and I simply, Take a couple of half a teaspoon by, it’s about three dropper fulls, put it below my tongue and let it soak in for a bit bit after which swallow it.
Or if I can’t stand the style, which I like my tinctures now, however many individuals have bother taking them at first. So simply dilute them in a bit little bit of water, only a quarter cup. After which Drink it down and there you go. The factor about herbalism and like issues just like the tinctures, they’re made to get, they’re really, they what’s it, the alcohol base or the glycerin base soaks into the mucous membranes all through the entire digestive tract beginning within the mouth by the esophagus into the abdomen and They work actually quick more often than not.
And guess what they do? Not solely is that this calming my cough, however the compounds in these herbs are literally going to work to assist my physique heal up. And that’s one other factor too. We attempt to go to the foundation trigger. Like if it’s a power challenge, like an allergy, what’s inflicting it? After which we are able to go work on that whereas additionally coping with the consolation degree of the acute a part of it.
So It’s a type of a multifaceted pondering course of. So for, however for individuals on a price range, simply begin making stuff, giving it a attempt, get into some actually good natural communities, get in. I’ve a free one on my Fb group. I’m not on Fb very a lot, however I do have a few of my crew members are in there serving to.
So in case you have questions you may wish to ask in there, however once more, I simply wish to warning all people. Please don’t belief the stuff you learn on-line. I’ve seen a lot harmful stuff. And I’m going to say, together with my very own group, as a result of I’m personally not monitoring it. All the time double, triple examine, you understand, the data earlier than you begin messing with issues.
And I simply additionally wish to point out right here with security, in case you’re on medicines like prescriptions, you actually need to guarantee that there’s no herb drug interactions as a result of Yeah, okay. So one of many major main ache killing herbs that lots of people begin utilizing, particularly after they’re new, trigger it’s, all people makes use of it and it’s straightforward to grasp is willow bark, you understand, and lots of people develop willow of their yards.

I’ve a few totally different willow timber, however. You possibly can tincture that and it makes a superb ache reliever. And it’s as a result of get this, that chemical in willow bark that makes it work is the very same by-product chemical that’s in aspirin. And actually aspirin began off. within the 1800s with the Bayer firm, taking this chemical out of willow and isolating it and saying, Oh, why don’t we simply give individuals the chemical?
Properly, it made them actually sick. And what they ended up doing then was placing a buffer coating over it, therefore bufferin, after which individuals may really take it. However Willow bark really goes by two metabolic processes within the physique earlier than it turns into that chemical and it’s a lot safer.
It’s gentler and also you’re getting the entire different compounds from the willow that go to work to assist that compound get into the physique and do what it must do. I imply, It’s loopy. Really, Joe, my husband, simply, I do know individuals can’t see this. This can be a half a gallon
Ruth Soukup: of willow bark tincture. Oh, wow.
Heidi Villegas: Yeah.
Ruth Soukup: And also you simply, once more, you identical to put that below your tongue, type of the identical factor, the best way that you simply have been.
Heidi Villegas: Yeah. You
Ruth Soukup: simply
Heidi Villegas: put it into a bit tincture bottle and.
Ruth Soukup: I wish to return to one thing you stated, as a result of it was, it actually caught with me and type of gave me a light-weight bulb second. Is that, as a result of we really speak about this. so much on this podcast with reference to meals, proper? That meals is drugs in that once you begin to eat the correct issues and minimize out all of the poisonous stuff that you simply’re consuming, you’re therapeutic your complete physique, proper?
And so that’s going to love, whereas. you understand, there’s the short fixes, the medicines and the issues are designed to masks the signs and make you depending on them in order that it’s a must to maintain taking them to maintain experiencing the outcomes. Whereas in case you can really heal your physique from the within out and eat the correct meals and minimize out the toxins and cut back irritation, you’re Insulin resistance and heal your intestine and do all these items.
Then your physique works the best way that it’s imagined to, once you really feel good. So the entire signs go away. It turns into this very holistic factor, however I don’t assume I’ve actually essentially thought of that when it comes to remedy, proper? Regardless that I speak about it kind of, I like when, as a result of I’m nonetheless pondering like, oh, properly, what would you do?
What would you do in case you had a sore foot then? Proper? Like, what do you want, what herb do you utilize for that? And also you’re saying. It’s really a way more holistic factor. You need to have a look at the physique and have a look at what your physique’s engaged on and work on therapeutic your complete physique. After which the entire signs go away.
Heidi Villegas: I’d love to offer you an instance of that. We’ve loads of medical professionals in my household. My daughter, as a matter of truth, is ending her medical diploma this yr and going into her residency, which is so bizarre as a result of her mates have a look at her, like, properly, you’ve acquired it. Your mother’s an herbalist.
Yeah. They’re taught to not use herbs. They’re advised herbs are unhealthy. Inform your sufferers don’t use herbs.
Ruth Soukup: Do you know 70 % of medical faculties are funded by large pharma?
Heidi Villegas: Oh yeah, completely. They don’t need herbs wherever round. And my daughter did loads of my analysis for me a couple of years in the past, earlier than she went off into medical faculty, she spent like an interim interval of like six, seven months at my, with us.
And I stated, look, in case you’re going to be right here, you possibly can like begin doing a few of my analysis. And I. have been actually open. She used to assume I used to be a kook, however she noticed the analysis. She noticed that the proof she was writing my loads of my books that I’ve written have been partially written by her and researched by her.
So, yeah it’s actually eye opening for medical professionals after they get thus far and I used to be going to, oh yeah, I wished to speak about my daughter in regulation. So she’s at all times been towards herbs. Actually, she acquired actually mad at me one time. She’s like, Simply take a capsule. She’s like, it simply, it’ll simply go away.
Take a capsule. I’m like, I’m not taking a capsule. Sorry. So we have been within the automotive driving one time. She lives down in Florida and and we, so we had a bit methods to go and he or she goes, so inform me about, you understand, your faculty. And I advised her in regards to the faculty and I advised her about my course, ditch the pharmacy. And he or she goes, properly, what’s it?
What do you study in ditch the pharmacy? Now she had youngsters at this level. I’ve acquired, they’ve two little, two of my grandkids are theirs and he or she’s very desirous about pure treatments proper now, which is sweet. She was asking in regards to the course and. I advised her, I stated, properly, mainly in a nutshell, what I do is I train individuals to create their very own custom-made residence apothecary for his or her household.
It’s custom-made. So it’s not generic. And mainly you possibly can substitute all the pieces that’s in a drug retailer with what I train. I imply, critically, all the pieces. And he or she goes, proper, she says, okay, she goes, so how do you substitute Tylenol? And I advised her, I stated, properly, I stated, you it’s all about the best way you concentrate on it.
So an herbalist, versus a physician, if any individual is available in with a ache, they’re simply going to say, take this a lot Tylenol. And generally they’ll put oxycodone with it too, you understand, to energy it up a bit bit. I stated, however an herbalist goes to say, okay, properly, what sort of ache is it? The place’s it at?
What’s occurring? What’s inflicting it? So let’s take an instance. Let’s simply say any individual has oh, a headache. All proper, you understand, complications are quite common. An herbalist goes to, or as, or in case you’re working with your personal physique, you’re going to go what’s inflicting the headache? Are my shoulders tense? Is that this a pressure kind headache?
Am I wired? Okay, in order that’s going to tell which herbs you may use. If in case you have a migraine headache, That’s going to tell some totally different herbs that you simply may use in case you’ve acquired a sinus headache. Properly, then you definately cope with the sinuses and you may as well cope with the headache on the similar time. And so all of these three totally different sorts of complications, you should utilize totally different herbs and be very efficient with them.
And in case you’re at a loss and also you don’t know what to do, take your willow bark.
Ruth Soukup: If all else fails, simply go to willow. It’s fascinating. Like, I actually assume that. I imply, clearly it’s greater than you would speak about it in a single podcast episode, however you’ve put all of it collectively in your course. And so, I imply, you mainly did simply inform us about what you do within the drug retailer, however how does any individual get to be a part of that?
Heidi Villegas: Properly, it’s a hybrid course. I like working with my college students I wish to work together with them as a lot as doable. Normally I’ll do what I name an open spherical two or thrice a yr the place we get on reside chats each week so I can actually information them in creating their residence apothecary. And I train from the bottom up, like that is starting, that is like starting household herbalism and we go into the important oils.
So that they’re additionally studying primary aromatherapy as properly. After which I assist individuals plan and arrange their apothecary that having the course be a hybrid signifies that any individual can be part of anytime and get began on the supplies. It’s very clearly laid out. Our pupil group is totally wonderful and crammed with so many very supportive and skilled herbalists and aromatherapists at this level.
So there’s at all times you understand, a technique to get solutions to your questions. And if that fails, you possibly can simply attain out and chat me. You understand, I like speaking with individuals, however the The underside line is the purpose, I really feel prefer it took me eternally to study this. It took me a very very long time as a result of I began studying earlier than the web was round.
I believe that’s a blessing now. Yeah, I needed to dig and dig for the data. And my first course was a snail mail course. It was correspondence by the mail. I do know it was that way back. And so I simply ended up, you understand, feeling like with, and I’m a instructor. I taught children for near, properly, 30 some years, so 40 dec 4 many years in case you rely my preschool educating years.
And so I do know that the sooner you will get any individual by an idea efficiently with understanding, the higher off they’re going to be and the extra seemingly they’re going to make use of it of their actual life. So the purpose right here is to get individuals The security basis first after which get their plan and group prepared after which dive into the drugs making make some choices and we information individuals like what do you assume, you understand, they’ll ask and lots of people will are available with well being wants and ditch the pharmacy is a course that’s not likely for that.
I’ve one other program for individuals who need larger degree well being assist, however ditch the pharmacy is fairly primary. What that stated, A lot of my college students are available with points like hypertension or you understand, they’re engaged on their diabetes, which weight loss plan, proper? Such as you stated, you understand, kind two diabetes might be actually cleared up loads of instances simply with shifts in weight loss plan and train.
However loads of them have been capable of get off a number of pharmaceuticals. Simply. That’s wonderful.
Ruth Soukup: Yeah. Yeah. So we’ll hyperlink to that in our present notes for these of you who’re listening, in case you are like, I acquired to get into this ditch the pharmacy in an effort to go and get all of the stuff we’ll hyperlink to Heidi’s YouTube channel and to all of the issues she’ll ship us all of the issues we’ll add all of these to the present notes.
I really feel like Heidi we may maintain speaking. eternally about this, so that you’ll have to come back again as a result of I don’t really feel like I’ve one other hour’s value of questions for you. However because it’s winter, how about we simply finish with like, if any individual comes down with a chilly or flu or no matter and desires to really feel higher.
What do they do?
Heidi Villegas: It is dependent upon the signs. It is dependent upon the symptomology. So primary could be work along with your immune system. Ensure that you’re dealing with that. In the event you, and it relies upon, there’s 4 levels of chilly and flu that I like to consider. There’s the primary stage, the place you understand you’re going alongside and issues are good and you’re feeling such as you’re simply getting a bit sick enhance that immune system take your echinacea that will be the time don’t take echinacea on a regular basis it’s too highly effective individuals don’t understand that there was a time frame the place you understand echinacea got here available on the market and all people’s like i’m simply going to take it day-after-day properly it doesn’t work like that it really will mess up your immune system on the every day.
So you’re taking it proper once you’re beginning to get sick after which elderberry needs to be taken a bit bit at a time ongoing as a tonic. These two issues proper there together with getting, you understand, sufficient sunshine for vitamin D you understand, taking your zinc, your standard stuff getting sufficient relaxation, you understand, you guys know the life-style factor.
Is step one. The second step is in case you begin getting, you understand, the primary signs, get them get on these instantly, as a result of like I stated a minute in the past, loads of these treatments, like for sore throat, or for a stuffy runny nostril. These not solely will deal with the stuffy runny nostril and the sore throat, however they’ll really they’ve acquired compounds like time, the herb that you could find within the grocery retailer.
It has an oregano, after all. And rosemary. So I may maintain itemizing them. I needed to guard the designs. Yeah. Yeah. You can begin taking these. They’ll assist the physique heal extra shortly. And so they’ll additionally maintain a few of the signs as properly. After which the following factor is, you understand, as you’re recovering, don’t cease, maintain taking your echinacea, you may begin feeling higher, however you’ve acquired to maintain on going for one more, I at all times say every week or two, simply to make certain, as a result of lots of people will begin feeling higher, they cease taking all the pieces, after which now they’re sick once more, and also you get higher Properly, who’re, you understand, they’re sick for like six months as a result of they simply don’t give their physique an opportunity to relaxation.
There’s loads of totally different, like I stated, my web site, my YouTube channel a whole bunch and a whole bunch of treatment and I cowl. Extensively.
Ruth Soukup: Be careful, Heidi. I may be in there this yr as a result of, you understand, I simply introduced this, that subsequent, that 2025, I’m solely going to be working three days every week as a substitute of 5.
Heidi Villegas: I’m like, I wish to try this.
Ruth Soukup: Concentrate on my homestead right here, which has no animals and Two unhappy little herb vegetation that do have time. Oh, and I’ve basil. So I’ve three, three unhappy little herb vegetation,
Heidi Villegas: however someplace I acquired to begin someplace. Yeah.
Ruth Soukup: So I’m prepared. I’ve been working since beginning three years in the past.
It has been a grind, so it’s time to, it’s time to. work, spend rather less time within the workplace and a bit extra time exterior. And I’m enthusiastic about that. Properly, Heidi, this was wonderful. So thanks a lot. Once more, we will probably be including hyperlinks to all the pieces that Heidi talked about within the present notes, you guys. So undoubtedly examine these out.
Take a look at her Ditch the Drugstore course. If you wish to study extra about herbalism, if you wish to grow to be an herbalist, if you wish to ditch the pharmacy and simply have herbs in your pharmacy which I undoubtedly do. And I’m very enthusiastic about this. So thanks once more, Heidi, and hopefully we are able to discuss to
Heidi Villegas: you quickly.
Ruth Soukup: All proper, guys, that about does it for this episode. Keep in mind that you could find all of the hyperlinks to all the pieces that we talked about on the present notes. And if you understand any individual else who may profit from all the pieces that we talked about immediately, please be sure you ship it their approach. Then be sure you subscribe to the podcast to be notified of future episodes.
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